RADIANT COMPASSION: GLIMPSES OF THE LIFE OF THE 16TH GYALWA KARMAPA
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Here I am not taking a position on the 17th Karmapas. I am pleased that they have met and are working together. I'd like to publish unsecretarian statements of Chökyi Nyima which shows the position of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche (both guru and disciple of the late Karmapa) and Trushik Rinpoche, a fully realized master of the Nyingma tradition, who was as well above politics.
Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche writes:
“First and foremost, over the generations the Karmapas are the gurus connected to my family. The fifteenth Karmapa identified my father as a reincarnation. The sixteenth Karmapa recognized me, Chokling, Tsoknyi and Mingyur Rinpoches. He also recognized Phakchok Rinpoche shortly after he was born. The Karmapa is like the root we all stem from.
Our late father had tremendous trust in and devotion for the Karmapa. He was both a disciple, and, to tell the truth, the Karmapa's guru as well. My father's profound devotion to the sixteenth Karmapa naturally extended itself to the two reincarnations. This is what he told us, "I will regard them as dear as my right and my left eye. You should do so as well." And since we are his sons, and by extension, you-monks, nuns and lay followers-are his spiritual children, we should all follow his wishes. I consider this a very important responsibility.
After his passing, I gave repeated and thorough consideration to finding his authentic reincarnation and how to avoid any problems. This wasn't just in passing, and my brothers and I held discussions several times. In the end, we decided it was best to request one of the personal guru's of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Trülshik Rinpoche. Trülshik Rinpoche is also the guru the present reincarnations of both Dudjom and Khyentse Rinpoches. He is a great nonsectarian master. I know that the sixteenth Karmapa showed great fondness and appreciation for him. He also transmitted many teaching lineages to the sixteenth Karmapa and Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.
My brothers and I all trust this authentic lord of refuge. Lamas from all four schools-Kagyu, Sakya, Gelug and Nyingma-respect him highly and with pure appreciation. He merits this respect because he has practiced his entire life. He has kept all three levels of precepts-the precepts of individual liberation, the bodhisattva trainings and the tantric commitments of the knowledge-holders-so he honestly deserves to be described as an authentic "triple vow vajra-holder". It is said that keeping the precepts of a fully ordained monk is very rare these days, like wearing pure gold, and Trülshik Rinpoche keeps not only the monastic precepts but all three levels-Hinayana, Mahayana and Vajrayana-perfectly. In our times he is simply extraordinary, a noble master who is both highly learned and has reached a profound level of realization, and so he can definitely be trusted. He, too, respects and has pure perception of both Karmapa incarnations. Trülshik Rinpoche is the regent of Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche and a root guru to my brothers and me.
Our late father's main monastic seat was Lachab Gompa and the lama in charge of it is Ngaktrin Rinpoche. I also discussed the search for my father's tulku with him over the phone and told him of my plans to consult Trülshik Rinpoche. "Very good," he said. "I trust Trülshik Rinpoche has profound realization and wisdom vision. Also, since your late father had pure perception of the two Karmapa incarnations and one should keep samaya free of taints, I agree with what you say one hundred percent." I also have a letter from him. He even sent a tulku as his representative who is here right.”
 
After the meeting of HH Thaye Dordje and HH Urgen Trinle, HH Dalai Lama acknowledged that there can be more than one 17th Karmapa and he rejoices in the Dharma activity of all of them:
“There are two Penchen Rinpoche, one was officially appointed by the Chinese government and the other was recognized myself by method of Mo Divination and careful investion. Of course there is the biography about (rather case of) the reincarnation of HE. Jamyang Kyentse Wangpo. He had five deference reincarnations: The reincarnations of body, speech, mind, quality and activity.
Therefore, in the same way, (it was) my opinion and thought, I wished strongly and talked too about two Karmapa.
But, some people said, there was nothing tradition like that the reincarnation of body, speech and mind in the Karmapa lineage.
So, the controversy continued. It doesn’t matter and it is excellent that my opinion thought (rather its my opinion?), if those who respond to flourish the Buddha Dharma (the teachings of scripture and realization) all over the world. Wishing that and many regards:)”


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  • Words of His Holiness
    • Prophecies >
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    • Vajrasongs >
      • Spontaneous Vajrasong at the Ground Breaking Ceremony of the Shri Nalanda Shedra in Rumtek
      • More vajrasongs and teachings
    • Words of Advice >
      • Towards Illumination
      • Short Wisdom Quotes
      • Interview 1980
      • Compassion -- the Language of the Bodhisattva
      • Western Visitor's Interview
    • Long-life prayers by HH the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa
    • Letter to European Disciples 1978 >
      • Letters written by the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa
    • Words of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa: From Social Media, Part One
    • Guidelines for Buddhist Studies in the Karma Kagyu School
  • A book about HH the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa
    • Presentation of the book about HH the 16th Karmapa >
      • Interviews
  • Short Biography of HH the 16th Karmapa
  • Extracts from Radiant Compassion
    • Table of Contents
    • prefaces and introduction
    • From Volume One, Chapter One >
      • Enthronement in Tsurphu
      • Lama Tönsang about Tsurphu
      • Tireless Dharma activity despite escalating violence
      • Garchen
    • From Volume One, Chaper Two: Travel to Nepal, Bhutan and India >
      • Birth of a Buddha
      • Construction of the Rumtek Monastery
      • travels
      • Minor Obstacles Abroad
      • The First Western Students
      • The 16th Karmapa in the USA 1974
      • HH the Dalai Lama: My Friendship with the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa
      • extracts of volume two >
        • Vienna 1977
        • Laying of the Foundation Stone of the KIBI
        • HH the 16th Gyalwa Karmapa's Parinirvana
        • Birdstories
        • Steve Roth Supreme Lord of Compassion
        • The Black Crown of the Karmapas
        • Moments that Changed Entire Lives
        • Bardor Rinpoche
        • Peace!
  • Who's the Karmapa?
  • Press articles about HH the 16th Karmapa
    • Visit in Rumtek 1965
    • The Priest and the Pekinese
    • Sickness and Parirvana
    • Visit in Rumtek 1965
  • Videos
  • background
    • rumtek shedra >
      • additional information >
        • dates
        • risks
  • bibliography
  • background informations
    • Predictions of the Karmapa by Buddha Shakyamuni and Padmasambhava
  • mistakes and modifications
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  • additional interviews and accounts
    • Account of Kenneth Green
    • Letter to Prime Minister Nehru
  • Victory banner of the Dharma
  • Interview with HH the 16th Karmapa, New York City 1980.
  • 50 years Karmapas in the West
    • Achi Tsepal: Karmapa in New York 1974
    • Visit to the Hopi Nation
    • Meeting with the Pope 1975
    • Karmapa in the UK by Samten de Wet
    • In Dordogne
    • Last Stop in Europe
    • 100th birthday of HH the 16th Karmapa >
      • 100th-anniversary-of-hh-the-16th-karmapa
  • Bookorders Volume One and Two
    • Prices
  • War and peace